East Leagues

Joint EWL and EML Management Meeting: Thursday 15th February 2007

 

Present

Russell Nutter

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Bob King

 

Richard Munns

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David Burt

 

Neil Liversedge

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Rosemary Prince

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Janet Goody

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Sarah Mann

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Pritpal Sagoo

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Cliff Gulbis

 

Steve Mayhew

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Robert Southgate

 

Barry Harness

 

Samantha Menear

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Trevor Williams

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Mike Huckerby

 

Jim Morris

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Minutes of previous meeting.
There were no issues arising.

1.       Correspondence

1.1.       Noted that University of Essex had forfeited a match but had now paid monies outstanding to Romford HC.

2.       Playing matters

East Women's League

2.1.       2C:  Noted that UEA Women had been using unqualified umpires and as a result had been penalised by four 0-3 awards against.  The same club had also tried to rearrange matches contrary to league rules; whilst university sides have special privileges in rearranging matches at the start of the season this does not apply at other times.  Abuse of this allowance may lead to its removal.

2.2.       1S:  Abuse directed towards a coach by Holcombe spectator is being dealt with by the Club. 
RP to write to issue a formal warning to Holcombe that penalties will be applied if any recurrence.

2.3.       Complaints had been received from Harleston Magpies and others that the League had refused postponements to some EWL 2nd teams whose clubs were participating in indoor competitions.  The Committee confirmed that the refusals had been correct and that the present guidelines for postponements for indoor commitments would be maintained, i.e. for first teams only and for commitments to senior indoor competitions only.  TW to respond.

However, if indoor leagues enlarge to fill all December and January as proposed by EH, and if the majority of our EWL and EML premier division clubs wish to participate, we may have to clear those months of all East premier division fixtures. If that occurred, more stringent rules on first team players playing down would be introduced.

East Men's League

2.4.       Late transfers confirmed:  James Kariuki to West Herts, Aaron Edwards to Norfolk Nomads, Toby Pickard to Hertford.  Not agreed:  Royce Waters to Bishops Stortford.

2.5.       5NE:  Noted that Harleston Magpies 7 have dropped out of the EML following four forfeited matches.  They are eligible to apply to rejoin next season and would be placed in the bottom division.

2.6.       5NE:  The match between Norwich City 5 and Norwich Union 4 on 10th Feb was awarded 3-0 to Norwich Union.

2.7.       9SE:  Noted that Old Southendian 4 had included a doubled up 2nd team player in a 12-man squad on 20th Jan.  The match had therefore  been awarded 3-0 to Saffron Walden 6.

2.8.       5NE:  Agreed that two yellow cards awarded to Norwich City 4 players after the match on 4th Nov be removed from League records as cards cannot be given after a match has ended.

2.9.       7SE:  Noted that following complaints the Harwich astro pitch had been relined.

2.10.    8SE:  A complaint about third team players appearing for Redbridge & Ilford 4's on a day when the 3's fixture was cancelled had not been upheld – the players concerned had been selected for the 4's before the cancellation.

2.11.    8SE:  Failure by Braintree 3 to rearrange a postponed game vs. Havering 5 on the date agreed by all parties had meant its award 0-3 to Havering.

2.12.    8SE:  The Clacton umpire had abandoned a game between Braintree 3 and Clacton 2 due to player abuse.  Agreed to award the match 0-3 to Clacton, subject to the umpire being appropriately qualified.  PS to investigate.  Comments from other Clubs about the capabilities of the Braintree umpire were noted. 

2.13.    4SW:  There had been problems between players and umpires in the match between University of Essex and Plashet on 10th February.  Agreed that Plashet be warned about undisciplined challenges to umpiring decisions and University of Essex to be warned about rough play.  The result of the match (1-5) will stand.  Concerns about the control skills of the UE umpire in this and at least one other game will be expressed to the club.  TW to write.

2.14.    3NW:  Peterborough Exiles had declined to play St Ives due to alleged poor light levels on the astro.  Both umpires agreed that the conditions were acceptable.  Conformed the award of the match to St Ives.

2.15.    3NW:  Advice to a Rutland umpire not to coach whilst officiating has been heeded.

 


3.       League structure and organisation

3.1.       EH Proposals for A Single System for Hockey:  The survey of East clubs to determine the impact on team numbers of EH proposals to ban U13, U14, and U15 players from senior leagues has been completed and published on the East website.  A similar survey by the South Women's League has also been completed and shows very similar results in terms of the numbers of teams that would be lost and the almost universal opposition of clubs to the proposed blanket imposition of these changes.  Discussions at a Regional Leagues meeting with EH showed that our concern about the use of junior bans is shared by others.  Outcomes of an EH survey and Board decision should be known by May.

EHL performance plan – league consequences: a healthy 50% of East Premier Division clubs responded to the EH consultation paper on performance plan issues.  Whatever new structure arises for the national league, there will probably be a reduction in size, and we may therefore experience a season of transitional promotion and relegation numbers.  Details of East club views on the proposed Dec-Jan indoor season are not yet available, but overall enthusiasm for the concept by a majority of responding clubs suggests that this will be the way forward, and we must be prepared to adjust the sizes of our premier divisions accordingly.  Final outcomes should be known shortly.

4.       Finance

4.1.       All fines imposed to date have been paid.

5.       Umpiring

5.1.       Umpire complaint form:  the draft is now approaching its second anniversary  but is due for discussion at the March ERHUA Management meeting.

5.2.       Cambridge University has no qualified umpires, but is still regularly receiving East and Cambs pool umpires.  Agreed to accept the ERHUA proposal that the Club be put on notice that this situation will not be allowed next season.  TW to write.

5.3.       No further information on the completeness of club umpire UA memberships has been obtained., and SM reported that the situation in Norfolk, Essex, Kent and Herts and Beds appears unclear.  As it stands it is  impossible for League Managers to have access to a unified list of Level 1 umpires in current UA membership, and individual managers will have to seek local information as best they can.  Operation of Rule 5.2 therefore remains problematic.

5.4.       A number of clubs are not contacting pool umpires prior to matches to confirm venue, time, and post-match details.  Agreed that at this stage the imposition of a new rule was not appropriate.  Pool Secretaries to be asked to report any repeat offender to the relevant League Manager who will take action with the Club as appropriate.  TW to write to ERHUA.

6.       Discipline

6.1.       Noted that an appeal against a yellow card by Thurrock Ladies had been withdrawn with acceptance that under EH disciplinary rules such an appeal is not possible.

6.2.       Unpleasant behaviour by spectators at the match between Bourne and. Redbridge & Ilford on 27th January had been addressed by Bourne HC with the introduction of improved pitchside arrangements.  Noted that the main source of the problem had been one individual from a club not involved in the match.

6.3.       The match between Luton Town and Ford on 3rd February had been abandoned by the umpires following a fracas between several players.  Reports from all parties were inconsistent.  Agreed that both clubs be penalised equally by the voiding of the tie, the deduction of 3 points and the issue of  warning that any repeat would led to dismissal from the league.  TW to write.

6.4.       Persistent poor behaviour to umpires by Luton Town 1st team has been reported.  Agreed that a warning be issued and HBHUA asked to monitor future behaviour.  TW to write.

6.5.       The monitoring of Bedford 1st team behaviour by East umpires continues, with no issues reported.

6.6.       Cards to date:  EML – 745 Yellow, 26 Red.   EWL – 61 Yellow, 1 Red.  Overall these numbers are similar to those of last season.  Significantly offending clubs are as reported previously, with Broxbourne (30Y and 1R in EML) still the worst.

7.       Rule changes for 2007/8 – proposals subject to 2007 AGM

7.1.       Scrapping of fixture card rule – previously agreed.

7.2.       Limitation of Rule 2 para 2 to pursuing league fees prior to the season – agreed.   Other debts can still be pursued with League Committee agreement under Rule 7.2, which allows for severe penalties if needed.

7.3.       Extension of  transfer deadline to 1st February– agreed. This is in line with other regional leagues and moves transfer administration away from the busy period when the leagues restart.

8.       Presentation Day and AGM June 3rd 2007

8.1.       NL agreed to check the facilities and costs of the Newmarket club option.  Royston HC have also expressed willingness to host the event. 

8.2.       Agreed that the EWL should purchase and present a Fair Play Trophy from this season, to be awarded by agreement of the EWL League Managers.  EWL will also present trophies to the top scorers in each division. 

8.3.       Agenda:

·        RN EML trophies and trophy presentations

·        SM EWL trophies & VIP invitations

·        TW certificates and AGM papers

·        PS  pennants

 

9.       Future meetings:  26th April, Stansted Hilton, starting time 7.30.