East Leagues;  Joint EWL and EML Management Meeting: 7.30, Thursday 12th Nov 2009

 

Present

Russell Nutter

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Bob King

 

Rosemary Prince

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David Burt

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Neil Liversedge

 

David Roberts

 

Janet Goody

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Sarah Mann

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Pritpal Sagoo

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Cliff Gulbis

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Samantha Menear

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Robert Southgate

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Barry Harness

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Andy Moncur

 

Trevor Williams

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Nick Hoyle

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Richard Munns

 

 

 

 

Apologies: Andy Moncur, Neil Liversedge, David Roberts, Richard Munns

Welcome:  The Chairman welcomed Sheila George, President ERHA, and Annette Thorpe, Hon. Gen. Secretary ERHA, to the meeting.

Minutes of previous meeting:  Agreed as correct.

1.       Correspondence

1.1.       Noted that Shefford 4 have withdrawn from EML 8SW

2.       Playing matters

2.1.       Noted that there were no FIH approved 3G pitches in East.  In the event that such a pitch is installed, the East Leagues would have to consider the competition level it might carry

2.2.       An Essex Univ early season postponement was refused, and the match was successfully played.

2.3.       Club views on the split in 6NW: no further comments received.  BH to maintain watching brief.

2.4.       Arrangements for results reporting in the absence of Richard Munns were working well.

2.5.       EML Manager reports and issues

Men’s League

Prem A, Prem B, Div 1

No significant problems apart from the organisation of postponements for senior indoor matches, several of which have been requested well after the league deadline due to the deadline for East indoor entry being later than the start of the league season.  In view of the confusion this might have caused, no penalties will be applied for such late postponements in these and other divisions this season, and the wording of the rule will be reviewed for next season (TW).  However, clubs should note that  late requests for postponements cause difficulties for the other clubs and the League will continue to press for indoor clubs to be more considerate in their organisation, particularly as the East Indoor Qualifier dates and entry forms are available from mid-summer.

 1, 2N, 2S
No significant issues apart from a late indoor postponement, as above.

3-6NE
Only issue is a possible failure to directly confirm a change in match time - under investigation.

3-4NW

No significant issues.

5-7NW
Following a match between St Neots 3 and Wisbech 4, both teams complained that the other had doubled up players without informing the opposing Captain.  As both Captains signed the teamsheets to signify a fair game, the result will stand, but both clubs will be given firm advice regarding their  future conduct when doubling up players  (BH).

3-5SW
No significant issues apart from a late indoor postponement, as above.

7-9SW
Problems have been caused by changes in match times loaded on to the East website but not communicated directly to the other club.  Consideration will be given to giving more information about the input dates of changes on the website, but this will NOT relieve clubs of the need to be considerate in promptly informing opponents of changes, as required by the league rules (TW).

3-6SE
Noted that match had been awarded against Chelmsford 3 for using the 1st team EHL goalkeeper as a field player.

Concerns had been received about a Brentwood 1 bench player playing down having allegedly been playing significant parts of 1st team games.  Club will be reminded that the rule is only intended to allow a player who regularly spends a lot of time on the bench to obtain necessary match practice, e.g. a reserve goalkeeper (PS). 

7-10SE 
Complaints had been received from clubs and umpires about the state of the John Orwell pitch.  To be discussed with the resident club, Wapping HC  (SM).

East Women’s League
Premier
No outstanding issues.

1S, 1N 
No outstanding issues.

2NE, 2NW
Noted that the Deeping Sports Centre had pronounced the Market Deeping pitch unfit for play.  Clubs are seeking alternative venues.

2SE, SW
A number of players from one club playing indoor for their school was discussed.  Noted that we cannot give a club a postponement because of a school match (SM).

3.       League structure and organisation

Issues associated with County League promotion strength were discussed.  Smaller county leagues are providing teams that struggle to cope with East Division 2, and there are recent examples of such teams refusing promotion or dropping out.  We do not wish the East League to be weakened in this way, nor do we want teams to be unhappy and struggling in East matches.  This situation needs a thorough review to determine if solutions can be found through changed league structures or procedures.  It is proposed that the Hon. Gen. Sec ERHA, Annette Thorpe, undertake this work, and the proposal will be discussed at the next ERHA Management meeting.  AT would prepare terms of reference for any agreed project., and would be co-opted on to the  League Management Committee for the duration.

4.       Finance

4.1.       A few league fines are outstanding but being chased (SM)

4.2.       Sponsorship moneys are being gathered (TW).

5.       Umpiring

5.1.       -

6.       Discipline

6.1.       A review of yellow cards will be carried out mid-season.  There may have been an increase due to inexperience with the new playing rules.

7.       Rule change proposals for the 2009 AGM

7.1.       Version 1 of the complete review of the rules is now complete.  Committee agreed to individually check through this and provide comments and suggestions directly to TW.  An amended version will then be made available to Clubs in January. 
Although the main intention is to clarify  wording rather than change the intent of rules, a few changes in intent were agreed to be desirable and will be put to the 2010 AGM.  These relate to promotions into EWL and EML, numbers of teams in divisions, placing of new teams in EML, teams dropping out of EML, the minimum number of league Committee meetings, and a definition of the role of Results Coordinator.  ERHUA have additionally agreed to look at some aspects of rule 5.1 to improve consistency across the region.

8.       AGM and Presentation Day: 

8.1.       No offers to host had been received.  Although recent hosts had provided excellent facilities and organisation, it would be good to involve other clubs if possible.  Suggestions will be sought from ERHA Management Committee next week, but if a new venue is not found, Ford HC will be approached (PS).

9.       Future meetings:  4th Feb, 15th Apr.     AGM 6th June.